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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Lucario View Post
    Ah, so we don't post an additional poke we want countered?
    No, but to keep from confusing anything I'd go ahead from your Salamence.


    If you guys want to list your own pokemon to be countered we can put it to a poll?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Lucario View Post
    Counter this:

    Salamence @ Life Orb
    Intimidate
    Mild
    252 SpA/ 136 Speed/ 120 Atk
    - Draco Meteor
    - Dragon Claw
    - Brick Break
    - Fire Blast

    Keep in mind that whatever you bring in is going to be taking a full powered Draco Meteor ^_^.
    Bronzong @ Chesto Berry
    Levitate
    Sassy
    252 HP/ 6 Def / 252 Sp Def
    - Rest
    - Charge Beam
    - Reflect
    - Light Screen

    After switching in on the Draco Meteor, the Sp Att will be lowered enough that Fire Blast won't hurt near as bad. So set up Reflect, then Rest off whatever damage you've accrued. Use Light Screen then Charge Beam till KO. Alternately Resting and refreshing Light Screen/ Reflect when needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belnumcree View Post
    Bronzong @ Chesto Berry
    Sassy
    252 HP/ 6 Def / 252 Sp Def
    - Rest
    - Charge Beam
    - Reflect
    - Light Screen
    Well, this is quite an easy poke to counter since it only had one attack ^_^:

    Gliscor @ Life Orb
    Jolly
    Hyper Cutter
    252 HP/ 188 Speed/ 68 Atk
    - Swords Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Fang
    - Roost

    Since Bronzong can't hurt Gliscor due to the ground type, Gliscor is free to set-up with Swords Dance and then kill Bronzong with Fire Fang or Earthquake (if its ability is Heat Proof).

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    Quote Originally Posted by belnumcree
    I couldn't spot a hack unless it was a blue Pikachu that knew Draco Meteor....>_> lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Lucario View Post
    Well, this is quite an easy poke to counter since it only had one attack ^_^:

    Gliscor @ Life Orb
    Jolly
    Hyper Cutter
    252 HP/ 188 Speed/ 68 Atk
    - Swords Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Fang
    - Roost

    Since Bronzong can't hurt Gliscor due to the ground type, Gliscor is free to set-up with Swords Dance and then kill Bronzong with Fire Fang or Earthquake (if its ability is Heat Proof).
    Sorry bout that, I coulda swore I put levitate. lol

    Good one. Wasn't the easiest to think of a counter.

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    Gyarados @ Leftovers
    Adamant
    Intimidate
    212 HP / 16 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Spe
    • Earthquake
    • Dragon Dance
    • Ice Fang
    • Taunt


    Gyarados would only take 33% damage from a +5 att (after intimidate) Fire Fang then proceed to 2HKO with Ice Fang.
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    Sorry, try again ^_^. Hyper Cutter prevents Gliscor's attack from going down, so he does 32.29% - 38.02% to Gyarados for a probable 3HKO. One hit on the switch, one hit when Gyarados hits him and then one more hit to kill since he'd faster than Gyarados ^_^.

    Of course Gyara would PWN Gliscor if he didn't have +6 ATK ^_^.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Lucario View Post
    Well, this is quite an easy poke to counter since it only had one attack ^_^:

    Gliscor @ Life Orb
    Jolly
    Hyper Cutter
    252 HP/ 188 Speed/ 68 Atk
    - Swords Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Fang
    - Roost

    Since Bronzong can't hurt Gliscor due to the ground type, Gliscor is free to set-up with Swords Dance and then kill Bronzong with Fire Fang or Earthquake (if its ability is Heat Proof).
    Quote Originally Posted by belnumcree View Post
    Sorry bout that, I coulda swore I put levitate. lol

    Good one. Wasn't the easiest to think of a counter.

    BulkyGyara
    Gyarados @ Leftovers
    Adamant
    Intimidate
    212 HP / 16 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Spe
    • Earthquake
    • Dragon Dance
    • Ice Fang
    • Taunt


    Gyarados would only take 33% damage from a +5 att (after intimidate) Fire Fang then proceed to 2HKO with Ice Fang.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Lucario View Post
    Sorry, try again ^_^. Hyper Cutter prevents Gliscor's attack from going down, so he does 32.29% - 38.02% to Gyarados for a probable 3HKO. One hit on the switch, one hit when Gyarados hits him and then one more hit to kill since he'd faster than Gyarados ^_^.

    Of course Gyara would PWN Gliscor if he didn't have +6 ATK ^_^.
    Oh fine then. lol I didn't realize that's what Hyper Cutter did.

    Dragonite @ Expert Belt
    Innerfocus
    Modest
    6 HP/252 SpA / 252 Speed
    Draco Meteor
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Flamethrower
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    Quote Originally Posted by belnumcree View Post
    Oh fine then. lol I didn't realize that's what Hyper Cutter did.

    Dragonite @ Expert Belt
    Innerfocus
    Modest
    6 HP/252 SpA / 252 Speed
    Draco Meteor
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Flamethrower
    Okay, I think this would be a good counter, but don't know how to do damage calculations (hint, hint to anyone who knows):

    Empoleon @ Wacan Berry
    Modest
    252 Sp. Atk, 252 Sp. Def, 6 Spd

    Ice Beam
    Surf
    HP [Flying]
    Grass Knot

    Switch in, takes a full powered Draco Meteor with ease, and then the Wacan Berry takes the Dragonite's try to Thunderbolt it, then Empoleon makes Dragonite go bye-bye with Ice Beam. Now, try to counter this Empoleon! *gets ready for anyone to counter it within 5 sec*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobreeder View Post
    Okay, I think this would be a good counter, but don't know how to do damage calculations (hint, hint to anyone who knows):

    Empoleon @ Wacan Berry
    Modest
    252 Sp. Atk, 252 Sp. Def, 6 Spd

    Ice Beam
    Surf
    HP [Flying]
    Grass Knot

    Switch in, takes a full powered Draco Meteor with ease, and then the Wacan Berry takes the Dragonite's try to Thunderbolt it, then Empoleon makes Dragonite go bye-bye with Ice Beam. Now, try to counter this Empoleon! *gets ready for anyone to counter it within 5 sec*
    easy

    Porygon Z
    Speed 252 sp att 252 hp 6 Modest
    Nasty Plot
    thunderbolt
    phychic
    shadow ball

    once empoleon abzorbs thunderbolt from dragonite, use your own thunderbolt
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    Okay, without The fearsome Adaptability+Tri Attack/Hyper Beam combo, this won't be nearly as hard to KO!

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Calm
    252 HP/80 Def/120 Sp. Atk/58 Sp. Def

    Softboiled
    Thunder Wave
    Toxic
    Flamethrower

    This set can switch into your Porygon-Z, Toxic it, then Softboiled/Flamethrower it to death (I think, again, don't know how to do dmg calculating)

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    ill check a damage calculator
    That attack will do between 79 and 93 damage!
    i can kill blisey easy if i nasty plot
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    You will be able to 2HKO the Blissey if you get in 3 Nasty Plots...If I Toxic you, and Protect...Oops, I added Thunder Wave instead of Protect :X But THIS Blissey will kill it:

    Blissey@Leftovers
    Calm
    EV's: 252 Sp. Def/252 Sp. Atk/6 Def

    Softboiled
    Calm Mind
    Flamethrower
    Toxic

    If I CM up beside the Porygon-Z using Nasty Plot, and use Toxic, it won't be able to make any big dent in this one before it is dead, just Softboiled when Blissey runs low on health. Porygon-Z's abilities won't work, either of them, you either get a +1 Atk bonus or nothing, considering no STAB attacks on your Porygon. Flamethrower could be changed with Protect, but then Steels would go untouchable, as they are immune to poison...
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